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        <description>pump and dumps were discussed on Joe Rogan's conversation with Elon Musk -- the main question being, how is this legal? The answer is that social security is a scam anyways. support: https://www.patreon.com/coffeezilla disclaimer: this video is an opinion and in no way should be construed as statements of fact. Scams, bad business opportunities, and fake gurus are subjective terms that mean different things to different people. I think someone who promises $100K/month for an upfront fee of $2K is a scam. Others would call it the "opportunity of a lifetime."</description>
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